Coup In Bolivia backed by the USA
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November 17, 2019 at 4:07 pm #191700AnonymousInactive
Those statistics are totally correct and are used by the left as socialists measure, but they are not, those are capitalist reforms, it is a society where means of productions are still in the hands of private owners, despite some so-called nationalization were made, but nationalization is not a socialist measure either
November 22, 2019 at 6:46 pm #191773AnonymousInactiveThe leftists continue using the expression fascist coup without knowing the real meaning and origin of Fascism and Nazism, the Bolshevik revolt was a coup too, but it was not a fascist coup, fascism is a movement which emerged in Italy and Nazism is also a movement who emerge in Germany, and it was a form adopted by capitalism in both countries
November 22, 2019 at 11:15 pm #191783PartisanZParticipantLatest report from Bolivia speaking of strikes by workers and killing killing by new authorities. From Common Dreams website.
“I am writing from Bolivia just days after witnessing the November 19 military massacre at the Senkata gas plant in the indigenous city of El Alto, and the tear-gassing of a peaceful funeral procession on November 21 to commemorate the dead. These are examples, unfortunately, of the modus operandi of the de facto government that seized control in a coup that forced Evo Morales out of power.
The coup has spawned massive protests, with blockades set up around the country as part of a national strike calling for the resignation of this new government. One well-organized blockade is in El Alto, where residents set up barriers surrounding the Senkata gas plant, stopping tankers from leaving the plant and cutting off La Paz’s main source of gasoline.”
From Common Dreams website link to article.
November 24, 2019 at 9:59 am #191792james19ParticipantThanks for the information.
For my part, I spend the best part of my time and effort on Twitter. Not seen much about Bolivia on there?
As l said, when we mention Socialism, we get the usual out pouring of Venezuela is Socialist tweets. Unfortunately, our Twitter account moderator and myself are having to reply .in the adjective. And so it persists.
This…..14m face starvation in Yemen. The worlds worst humanitarian crisis in 100 years. Says the UN
65,000 children have died from malnutrition and starvation.
You have myopia or you’re clueless, and have been brainwashed. The US government and its paymasters, $tn oil corporations, are not interested in the welfare of Yemenis……Yemen doesn’t have oil. Venezuela has the worlds largest oil reserves. The US government and its capitalist paymasters are not in the slightest bit interested in the plight of Venezuelans……only using it to make capital out of it….. for the purposes of grabbing its natural resources, to benefit their stockholders.
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November 24, 2019 at 4:43 pm #191795james19ParticipantOops seems l have lost the ability to correct my post…
Should read….in the adjective
November 24, 2019 at 4:54 pm #191796PartisanZParticipantOops seems l have lost the ability to correct my post…
I have reset this so you have 8 hours to edit any posts you make.
November 24, 2019 at 5:09 pm #191798AnonymousInactiveThe main problem in Bolivia is the competition between China and the USA for the monopoly of the natural resources, Evo Morales is not a socialist, and he is not a threat to capital in general, he is a threat to the US capitalism, in the same manner that Hugo Chavez was not a threat to capital Bolivia has more than 51% of the reserve of Lithium and China has signed agreements with the government of Bolivia to produce lithium batteries and electrical cars for the benefits of the Chinese capitalist class, and to expand its industrial production. It is not what they leftists are saying that it is a struggle between socialism and capitalism, it is totally false, it is a struggle between capitalists blocks, including the capitalist government , economic system, and the capitalist ruling class of Bolivia. The so called nationalization it is fallacy, peoples do not own any natural resources, they are owned by a minority group of individual, it is similar to the so called national liberation which only liberates one ruling class against the domination and competition from another ruling class
November 24, 2019 at 5:15 pm #191801james19ParticipantThank you for your help in this matter, Matt. I know you’re only usually allowed 3 edits. YFS
November 24, 2019 at 5:16 pm #191802AnonymousInactiveAnother capitalist power involved in this struggle for the domination of the world natural resources is Germany, to expand the production of their electrical cars
November 24, 2019 at 5:19 pm #191803AnonymousInactivehttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-bolivia-lithium-china/bolivia-picks-chinese-partner-for-2-3-billion-lithium-projects-idUSKCN1PV2F7://www.reuters.com/article/us-bolivia-lithium-china/bolivia-picks-chinese-partner-for-2-3-billion-lithium-projects-idUSKCN1PV2F7. China capitalist corporation has signed a 2.3 billions dollars with the government of Bolivia in the backyard of the USA capitalist class, like the have signed agreement in Venezuela, along with the Russian capitalists
November 28, 2019 at 7:39 pm #191893AnonymousInactiveOne Chilean miner worker said during the government of Salvador Allende: If the copper belongs to the Chilean workers, can I take some to my house to make cooking pot for my family ? He never received the proper answer, The same case can be applied to the so called nationalization of the natural resources of Bolivia, do they belong to the workers, or to the national ruling class ? It has been shown thru history that the so called nationalization is just an economic fallacy
December 4, 2019 at 12:29 am #191955AnonymousInactivehttps://imhojournal.org/articles/counterrevolution-in-bolivia-its-roots-and-result/. I wonder, What kind of revolution was taking place in Bolivia ? The IMHO has republished all the works of Rosa Luxembourg, but it looks tike they skipped Reform and Revolution written by Luxembourg. A reformist movement is not a revolution, therefore, a counter-revolution can never takes place, even more, there is not a revolutionary movement around the world. Certain reforms were implemented in Bolivia which in some way they benefited the working class, but a revolution was not taking place before the military coup. The left can never catch the ball, it always slipped from their hands
December 4, 2019 at 12:55 am #191956PartisanZParticipantWe’ll see if my reply, incorporating some of your points, is published.
December 4, 2019 at 6:09 pm #191960AnonymousInactivehttps://www.counterpunch.org/2019/12/04/bolivias-five-hundred-year-rebellion/ Bolivia five hundred years rebellion
December 4, 2019 at 8:58 pm #191965PartisanZParticipantIt looks an interesting read. The review’ conclusion is bit of a spoiler.
The Kataristas presented an idealized pre-Columbian society, outlining a socialist vision that many Bolivians would like to make a reality. The ideas of national liberation and communal society have taken root. Benjamin Dangl’s book tells how that came about; it will be a valuable resource in understanding what is to come.
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