Cost of living crisis
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March 22, 2023 at 4:51 pm #241725robbo203Participant
More good news on the cost of living front. My energy bill for the month ending 22 March 2023 would have come to a staggering £307.72 had it not been for government handouts which some of you would rather hand back.
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From where did you get this daft idea, Lizzie, that we socialists would rather “hand back” government handouts on principle than accept them? For all your acid comments about the SPGB you don’t seem to know much about us, do you?
Honestly, you sound more like a Tory praising the actions of the Tory government. Do you really think these are going to make much difference to your way of life and standard of living as an exploited proletarian?
March 22, 2023 at 11:48 pm #241737Lizzie45BlockedDo you really think these are going to make much difference to your way of life and standard of living as an exploited proletarian?
Well, actually no, but they’ve certainly helped me and many thousands of proles in the here and now.
March 23, 2023 at 8:38 am #241752ALBKeymasterThen we seem to be agreed on this particular point.
March 23, 2023 at 9:04 am #241758alanjjohnstoneKeymasterI refuse nothing but blows.
But I also decline to express my gratitude and offer any reward.
March 28, 2023 at 9:53 am #241884ALBKeymasterLast year, Andrew Bailey, the Governor of the Bank of England, called on workers to exercise self-restraint over wage demands so as not to cause inflation to get established. Last week he called on businesses to exercise self-restraint on price increases for the same reason.
Neither workers nor businesses are taking any notice. In today’s Times, it’s Financial Editor, Patrick Hosking, explains why business won’t be any more than workers:
“Surely, when first introduced to an economics textbook, Bailey learnt that firms are not driven by altruism or patriotism but by market forces and profit? They will charge what the market will bear (…) While modern-day corporations have to consider many stakeholders, they still see their primary duty over the long run to maximise profits for the shareholders.”
There you have it.
Explaining what “charge what the market will bear” means, Hoskins adds:
“Until businesses see more capitulation by their customers, the price escalation will go on. Business will stop lifting their prices only if enough customers defect to competitors, trade down to cheaper lines or find near-substitutes. Or stop buying at all. For the poorest households, this has happened already.”
Nice system capitalism, isn’t it?
March 28, 2023 at 11:04 am #241903Lizzie45BlockedNice system capitalism, isn’t it?
Yup, but it’s the only game in town.
March 28, 2023 at 11:07 am #241904Lizzie45BlockedMillions of households are set to receive cost of living payments in the next two months.
The government has announced households receiving means-tested benefits will get these payments in three instalments.
The first payment of £301 will be made in spring, followed by the second payment of £300 in autumn and the final payment of £299 will be given in the spring of 2024 – totalling up to £900.
Households will receive the first payment between 25 April and 17 May.
March 28, 2023 at 11:28 am #241911OzymandiasParticipantWhat a pathetic slave you are. You fuckin arsehole.
7. You are free to express your views candidly and forcefully provided you remain civil. Do not use the forums to send abuse, threats, personal insults or attacks, or purposely inflammatory remarks (trolling). Do not respond to such messages.
March 28, 2023 at 1:16 pm #241961Lizzie45BlockedOh, what a naughty boy you are, Raymond. Go and wash your mouth out with soap and water.
March 28, 2023 at 1:44 pm #241971chelmsfordParticipantI am NOT Spartacus! I am NOT Spartacus! It’s that bloke over there. Kirk Douglas.
March 29, 2023 at 2:32 am #241989AnonymousInactiveThe socialist party should turn the internal forum into private forum like the WSPUS, if some members want to keep their names to be anonymous, or clandestine, it is their personal decision. in the middle of the class struggles I have seen many members of others organizations being killed by denunciations made by lumpen, and by anticommunists. If Chelmsford wants his name to be private that is his private decision. There was a member of this party who received death threat from right wingers, we should pay attention to the class struggle, and the class struggles is dangerous. specially when you are a member of socialist groups
March 29, 2023 at 2:14 pm #242001ALBKeymasterSomething else, Lizzie, for you whoopee about. British Gas have just sent me an email to say they have a charity to help people in difficulty because they can’t keep up with paying their energy bills. You might be eligible since you don’t have to be a British Gas customers. Let us know if they agree to throw you a few coppers.
https://www.britishgas.co.uk/energy/british-gas-energy-trust.html?cid=dplk_BGET
Incidentally, Movimento, not all those here are Socialists — this forum is mainly to discuss or be read by with those who aren’t yet — and we do have a forum just for Socialist Party members.
March 29, 2023 at 4:35 pm #242006Bijou DrainsParticipantThe fact that some contributors to this forum (and others) do so through pseudonyms is generally due to the fact that they do not want to have the real names put on the internet due to possible difficulties that may involve.
The legislation on online guidance on harassment states that “For harassment to be committed, there must have been a clear ‘course of conduct’. That is, two or more related occurrences. The messages do not necessarily have to be violent in nature, but would need to have caused some alarm or distress.”
I would say that putting people’s real names on the internet would cause alarm or distress to someone who had clearly used a pseudonym so as not to put their name on the internet. This is not the first time that this behaviour has occured and it would be reasonable, considering the previous nature of the postings, that the intention of posting those names was to cause alarm and or distress (mens rea and actus reus)
Just a thought
March 29, 2023 at 9:59 pm #242013Lizzie45BlockedSomething else, Lizzie, for you whoopee about. British Gas have just sent me an email to say they have a charity to help people in difficulty because they can’t keep up with paying their energy bills. You might be eligible since you don’t have to be a British Gas customers. Let us know if they agree to throw you a few coppers.
https://www.britishgas.co.uk/energy/british-gas-energy-trust.html?cid=dplk_BGET
How very kind and considerate of you to provide that link, Adam. (hope you don’t object to being addressed by your given name – so much more friendly and informal than ridiculous pseudonyms).
However, I’m unlikely to be eligible as I’m not ‘in difficulty’, due in part to the numerous handouts I and many thousands of others have already received and continue to receive.
March 30, 2023 at 12:05 am #242014AnonymousInactiveI have been in the working class movement for several decades, and I started during the difficult time when being a socialist/communist was a capital sin, and we were not seating on a rocking chair, we were actives
I have seen many traitors, lumpen and capitalists ass kisser in this movement and they are dangerous, and they are as dangerous as the capitalists and the state and its repressive forces
Some of those ass kissers got what they deserved, that is reason why many peoples took different names, up to know there are peoples that I do not know their real name, and I do not care about that, it is not my problem, and I respect their personal decision, they were aware of the class struggle
I do care about those that like to denounce others peoples and those are the dangerous ones, and like the old days I consider them as my own fucking enemies.
The internet committee should look into several issues that are taking place around here, this is the forum of a socialist party, it is not a social or liberal club
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