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December 18, 2020 at 6:05 pm #211009AnonymousInactive
Agree.
I’m cheesed off with the UK’s lax attitude to mask-wearing compared to France. I have yet to see someone delivering to my door who bothers to wear a mask. In shops too, some don’t bother.
December 18, 2020 at 8:40 pm #211011AnonymousInactivehttps://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/12/18/pers-d18.html?pk_campaign=newsletter&pk_kwd=wsws
We want them infected, an email leaked from the White House. The lovely bourgeoise class of the USA and its leaders, loved by millions of workers want them to die for the cause of herd immunity like animals in the jungle. Where are we going ( world working class ) take consciousness of our real interests, and stop defending our own class enemies? In my dictionary, it is called class conciliation
December 18, 2020 at 8:46 pm #211012AnonymousInactivehttps://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/12/18/txrf-d18.html?pk_campaign=newsletter&pk_kwd=wsws
It looks like many women are willing to confront and denounce the lies of the capitalist class. This woman did what other men have not done yet wich is to confront and denounce the lies of a USA governor
December 18, 2020 at 10:05 pm #211022AnonymousInactiveShould be made clear that the link is not to a socialist site but a trotskyist one. Just in case readers think we are recommending WSWS.
December 18, 2020 at 10:17 pm #211023L.B. NeillParticipantWe want them infected, an email leaked from the White House. The lovely bourgeoise class of the USA and its leaders, loved by millions of workers want them to die for the cause of herd immunity like animals in the jungle. Where are we going ( world working class ) take consciousness of our real interests, and stop defending our own class enemies? In my dictionary, it is called class conciliation
MS that is a gloomy picture- sometimes I feel the dominating class treat we workers as a herd: herd management 😥
Thomas I did not click the link, I have had my fill of Trotskyist ideology- but MS has cheered me no end at the stark of this fine day!
In herd solidarity,
L.B
December 18, 2020 at 10:28 pm #211024rodshawParticipantProblem with this ‘rational attitude’ is, if it’s rational for you to wait and see what happens to other people, it’s also rational for them to wait and see what happens to you, ergo, it’s a quasi-antivaxxer argument.
I disagree. As we are seeing by people’s different attitudes here, some think it’s rational for them to wait, some think it’s rational to take the plunge. It may depend on your circumstances. If you have a fairly healthy diet and lifestyle, live in a relatively low-risk area and are obeying the social distancing rules, it may be more rational to wait if you’re afraid of potential long-term side effects. If you have bad health and/or diet, live in a more high-risk area or do a high-risk job, it’s probably more rational to have the vaccine.
I think far more people will consider it reasonble to have the vaccine than to wait.
December 18, 2020 at 10:44 pm #211026L.B. NeillParticipantIt may depend on your circumstances. If you have a fairly healthy diet and lifestyle, live in a relatively low-risk area and are obeying the social distancing rules, it may be more rational to wait if you’re afraid of potential long-term side effects. If you have bad health and/or diet, live in a more high-risk area or do a high-risk job, it’s probably more rational to have the vaccine.
I think far more people will consider it reasonble to have the vaccine than to wait.
rodshaw, the rationality is complex indeed, and situational- newer did like rational logic as applied to human emotions…
But you do raise a point that I might share. I could take pains to decide to jab now, or to wait- oh, thinking makes it so.. I live in a jurisdiction that eliminated covid due to long lockdown, and yet… across the border, NSW, it comes back like a hurricane.
When it is available- I will let you know if I had tears… hate needles.
December 18, 2020 at 10:45 pm #211027AnonymousInactiveWhat is the difference between posting a link from the Washington post, the New York Times , Trotskyist or Stalinist when the information is correct ? Do not try to be provocateur it is not going to work with us
December 18, 2020 at 10:54 pm #211028L.B. NeillParticipantMS, that is okay, I meant, I am tired of Trotsky, but not the facts the site may report.
But I did appreciate your comments, they reflected what I was thinking at the time. I am not into provoking reactions and being contrary. It is one of those days when a link just reminds me of my past reformism…
Besides, facts we uncover come from what you say “Washington post, the New York Times , Trotskyist or Stalinist’. They are facts.
And many other media outlets- just tired of some spin of late- we work together, not against one another.
December 18, 2020 at 10:56 pm #211029AnonymousInactiveI am subscribed to hundred of newspapers and magazines from differences sources and tendencies and I read them If George bush says that the war in Iraq was a criminal act I think it would be a correct statement and it can be published like McNamara recognized that the war in Vietnam was not correct I think he was right too I don’t think Trump has lied all the times what he said about the USA wars during his campaign it was correct too
December 18, 2020 at 11:04 pm #211030AnonymousInactiveRight now I am publishing spgb articles on a forum or chat run by leftists castroists and social Democrats and everything is running smoothly and they are open to new information
December 18, 2020 at 11:08 pm #211031L.B. NeillParticipantPoint taken- it is important to scan disparate journals. I do too. Every now and then I can just have a brain snap regarding some reports. Hope you did not feel I was having a go at you… far from it.
I was reminded of how in a spin or in an alternative fact, there lies a lot of data between the lines- we cool?
December 18, 2020 at 11:14 pm #211032alanjjohnstoneKeymasterWSWS is a very useful and often well-researched website for such a small and insignificant party (The Socialist Equality Party who has David North as its leader), full of data and facts and some nice quotes.
Usually somewhere in the article you may be interested in is their link to their own original source which can be referred to if anyone is hesitant in directing others to a Trotskyist website.
Other than Trotskyism, another bias is its anti-official trade union position, so caution there also.
December 18, 2020 at 11:32 pm #211039AnonymousInactiveLike the ICC. ( CCI in Spain ) they are against trade union but they also publish good articles, and they make good researches and they have branches in different countries, and I was a member of their public forum and one time they said that after all the SPGB had taken good stands regarding the Soviet Union, and one of their members became a member of the WSM.
The WSWS is a Trotskyist newspaper but they make good research sometimes, and we have a brain to make proper judgments. I was a member of a chat of ex-school members and they are all Catholics and I published articles from the SPGB in that chat and we had discussions about socialism. I had correspondences with a Cuban librarian and I sent articles of the SPGB before she died We must open the windows and doors of our minds
PS They re already selling fake coronavirus vaccines on the internet for $300.oo dollars, so be aware of that, How did I they learn about that? From a leftwing newspaper that I am subscribed to
December 18, 2020 at 11:38 pm #211046L.B. NeillParticipantPS They re already selling fake coronavirus vaccines on the internet for $300.oo dollars, so be aware of that, How did I they learn about that? From a leftwing newspaper that I am subscribed to
MS, you put it into perspective… And yes we do a brain to discern- remember though, I fell for the Trotsky line once. Wiser now that I knew I was a fool once!
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