Chinese Tensions
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October 14, 2021 at 7:39 am #223502Young Master SmeetModerator
Let’s not forget, according to some docs I’ve seen, the party has basically alleged that the Vietnamese (and to extent the Korean) wars were about keeping those South China Sea lanes open.
October 14, 2021 at 3:17 pm #223503AnonymousInactiveAnd the leftist are saying that the war of Vietnam was a war for opium only, it was a war for raw materials and to keep control of the region including the seas and the oceans, and the winner of that war was china
October 14, 2021 at 4:22 pm #223504AnonymousInactiveAnd also the Suez Canal
October 21, 2021 at 9:51 pm #223614AnonymousInactiveThe USA is exaggerating the military power of China and Russia. They are the one which still has the largest military power in the whole world
October 22, 2021 at 4:26 am #223616alanjjohnstoneKeymasterhttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-59005300
Biden says US will defend Taiwan if China attacks
October 22, 2021 at 6:13 am #223617AnonymousInactive7db255bff176_story.html
Evergrande dodges default by paying interest only, but they can not hold the bull by the horns
October 22, 2021 at 2:37 pm #223624alanjjohnstoneKeymasterOctober 22, 2021 at 9:54 pm #223632AnonymousInactiveMany people are saying that Joe Biden did not act properly or in an organized way and that he does not know what he is doing when he pulled out all the troops from Afghanistan, but those are romantic thoughts
They are not based on the actual reality of our world, and the actual conflicts in our society,
The market is more important than anything else and our world is controlled by the market, and the market is the cause of wars
He did pull out the troops (even though he is taking the risks of losing voters) because the USA ruling class wants to focus their attention on the hegemonic threat of Chinese capitalism, and the USA does not want to fall into a second-class world empire.
They are not fools and they know what they are doing, we as workers are the fool ones, the ruling class has more consciousness than the working class, as Alan said we have leaders because we never have had class consciousness.
He is not sleepy joe, as well Trump was not a fool either, both were able to obtain millions of voters, they are the victorious ones and the workers were the losers by electing pro-capitalist presidents. How about placing ourselves in power?
The infrastructure bill is to finance advanced and modern technology to compete with China, it is not to help the working class, those were the ones who financed his nomination and election campaign.
There are rumors that the USA wants to reindustrialize the country again like in the old days of WW2, and they are willing to pay higher taxes to be able to finance all the superstructure needed to produce commodities, in any way the wages in the USA are very low and the cost of production from China is getting too expensive.
There are more than 100 transportation ships making line in the sea waiting to unload their merchandise in the port of Los Angeles California and they are saying that they have a so-called shortage of labor
October 23, 2021 at 3:37 am #223635alanjjohnstoneKeymasterOctober 23, 2021 at 6:18 am #223636ALBKeymasterAnother pro-China event today:
https://nocoldwar.org/news/europe-against-the-cold-war-china-is-not-our-enemyonline-event-23-october
Why do leftists always want to choose one side or the other in inter-imperialist conflicts?
Neither Washington nor Peking but International Socialism !
October 23, 2021 at 7:12 am #223638alanjjohnstoneKeymasterThe anti-war against the Iraq invasion was very simple to comprehend, a war for resources and its oil.
This possible and potential war is equally easy, a late-comer to world commerce striving for its market share at the expense of the established industrial nations with the present focus being on the crucial bottle-neck trade route, the South China Sea.
It happened before with different actors. And that makes me (surprise, surprise) a bit of a pessimist for the future.
But as always, will our fellow workers fall for the patriot propaganda or once again see through it all for what it really is.
But are the Left wrong in their attention to deal with the one’s national capitalists with an anti-war campaign and ensure that they fail to mobilise? After all, what influence does any leftist have with swaying the opinion of their Chinese fellow workers? And there is always a risk of being accused of being “enemy sympathisers” by stating some home truths.
Third Campers have never been popular with leftist ideologues
October 24, 2021 at 12:05 pm #223655alanjjohnstoneKeymasterRussian and Chinese warships have held their first joint patrols in the Pacific Ocean, Moscow has said
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/russia-china-hold-first-joint-135800319.html
October 26, 2021 at 11:15 pm #223783alanjjohnstoneKeymasterChina Telecom must stop providing services in America within 60 days.
Officials said the Chinese government’s control of the company gave it the opportunity “to access, store, disrupt, and/or misroute US communications”. This in turn could allow it “to engage in espionage and other harmful activities against the US”, they said.
China Telecom, which has provided telecoms services in the US for nearly 20 years, called the decision “disappointing”.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59055360
In the tit for tat world of diplomacy and commerce, China will retaliate in some manner.
October 27, 2021 at 8:33 am #223792AnonymousInactivehttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/20/biden-taiwan-china-us-defence
White House backtracks after Biden appears to say the US would defend Taiwan against China
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