Carshalton Environmental Fair 26/8/13

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    jondwhite
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    It doesn't sound like anyone will be convinced either way on the red flag – as perhaps it comes down to gut instinct – but there is information suggesting

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    On 31 May [1831], Thomas Llewellyn, a coal miner, attempted to hold a rally advocating reform at Hirwaun Common. However, the reformers met with a more militant group who wanted to take more radical action. The radicals killed a calf and dipped the white cloth of a reform flag in its blood. They raised the flag on a pole as probably the first ever Red Flag ever flown as a left-wing symbol. It was delared to be a symbol of their slogan Bara neu Waed (Bread or Blood).

    The red flag (unadorned by hammer nor sickle) seems to have been used by workers in the class struggle regularly during the 19th Century.

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    jondwhite wrote:
    It doesn't sound like anyone will be convinced either way on the red flag…

    Hardly surprising considering the limited discussion so far as taken place on a thread entitled "Carshalton Environmental Fair".

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    The red flag (unadorned by hammer nor sickle) seems to have been used by workers in the class struggle regularly during the 19th Century.

    We're now in the early 21st Century where the use of red, due to a paradigm shift in the political landscape,  has assumed entirely different connotations.

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