Bordiga and the Bordigists, 8 December, London

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    jondwhite
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    http://cpgb.org.uk/home/action/event-bordiga-and-the-bordiga-ists 

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    Event: Bordiga and the Bordigists

    Bordiga

    Location: Calthorpe Arms. 252 Grays Inn Road, London, WC1 Map

    Starts: 17:00, Sunday 08 December 2013

    Ends: 20:00, Sunday 08 December 2013

    Email: office@cpgb.org.uk

    David Broder speaks to London communists on 'Bordiga and the Bordigists'.

    All welcome.

    #98468
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/2000s/2004/no-1193-january-2004/more-lenin-or-less-leninBordiga, more Lenin, or less Lenin ?  Another form of Leninism. another way to beautify Bolshevism. The same thing as CLR James, the ICC ( and their splits ), Gramschi, the Marxist-Humanists, and  Mariategui,  who have rejected portion (s)  of Leninism,  but have kept the rest of the wrong conceptions of Bolshevism, Sovietism and Leninism. The same tactic of the lesser evil of the leftwingers and right wingers.  PS  As Paul Mattick was correct when he  wrote the following :  "Who ever departs from the experience of the Soviets will only end in wrong conclusions". Bolshevism is not an experience to be followed by the working class, on the contrary, it must be rejected completely, with them socialism did not advance one day 

    #98469
    imposs1904
    Participant

    Anybody get along to this?I see on the libcom forum that David Broder is now ex-Commune. I can't keep up. I thought he was one of the main people in Commune. What happened?

    #98470
    slothjabber
    Participant

    The Commune has ceased to exist in my understanding. I think the only person that hasn't left is a member in Sheffield.

    #98471
    jondwhite
    Participant

    So members of the autonomist Marxist group in britain have gone off and done their own thing?

    #98472
    slothjabber
    Participant

    Who are you talking to?

    #98473
    jondwhite
    Participant

    You?

    #98474
    slothjabber
    Participant

    Feared as much. What is 'the autonomous Marxist group in Britain'? Do you mean 'the Commune'? Or are there former members of the Commune that were in a group called 'the Autonomist Marxist Group'? I don't know who has 'gone off and done their own thing'. I suspect most of them have joined other organisations. Some have died, such as Dave Spencer, who was one of the Commune's people in the West Midlands. All I know is that I've been told that there is now only one member of 'the Commune' left, by the person who claims to be that single member.

    #98475
    jondwhite
    Participant

    Members leaving to do their own thing is probably the fate of many autonomous Marxist groups. I suspect most committed autonomists would not join other non-autonomist organisations.

    #98476
    ALB
    Keymaster

    There was an ex-member of the party, Adam Ford, who wrote for them, e.g.http://thecommune.co.uk/2012/06/15/sparks-show-the-way/Where has he gone to?

    #98477
    jondwhite
    Participant

    He blogs herehttp://infantile-disorder.blogspot.co.uk/

    #98478
    imposs1904
    Participant

    Just spotted that the CPGB/Weekly Worker group have uploaded an audio file of David Broder's talk:Link: Bordiga and BordigismI've not listened to it yet. 

    #98479
    imposs1904
    Participant

    Anybody else listen to this?Despite at times thinking the speaker sounded like J.P. from Fresh Meat narrating the audio book of Gwyn Williams' Proletarian Order – excuse my inverted snobbery  –  I thought it was an interesting talk. It was shame that they didn't include the contributions from the floor in the podcast. I was curious about aspects of the talk and I was hoping that a recorded Q & A session would have answered some of the questions I had.

    #98480
    jondwhite
    Participant

    I think the CPGB (who host London Communist Forum) practise is not to include floor contributions in recordings (except perhaps in some of their very early videos). It could be to do with not every audience member giving permission.

    #98481
    ALB
    Keymaster

    I suppose I should have gone to the meeting but I didn't fancy going into the centre of London during the pre-xmas period. Just listened to it and noted confirmation of something I remember reading somewhere else: that Damien (whose organisation later became the one which the CWO is now affiliated to) stood in elections in 1946 and 1948. It would be interesting to see his election programme and how many votes he got. I think I'll email David Broder to see if he knows.Imposs1904, what were the questions you wanted to ask?

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