Although they refer to Anton Pannekoek, they aren't as radical as they wish to appear, supporting the transitional stage of "socialism".But as i raised in the other thread – they are evolving but as i always say, because their route has been different, they bring their own particular baggage with them, some they are discarding but retaining some other stuff they have yet to still find unnecessary to continue their journey. Is this also part of the identitarian issue…what is so different from a black American socialist other than being higher on the league table of suffering from a white, but not perhaps as up as a brown woman Asian sweat-shop worker…