Anti-Zionism is not anti-semitic

December 2024 Forums General discussion Anti-Zionism is not anti-semitic

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  • #247593
    Anonymous
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    #247594
    robbo203
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    I came across this on the “Moon of Alabama” site. Quite interesting background information on the likely triggers of a wider regional war and how it might evolve. The bit about the US launching an attack on Syria is concerning and the prospect of drawing Russia as Syria´s ally into the conflict. But I wonder if that´s likely

    “The Split In Israel And The War Of Al-Aqsa
    What is the reason for the ‘Al-Aqsa Deluge’, as Hamas had named its terror operation against the Zionists?”

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/the-split-in-israel-and-the-war-of-al-aqsa.html#more

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    paula.mcewan
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    I’m sorry Almamater. I didn’t realise you were quoting an organisation not yourself with your comment about “class brothers”.

    However please bear in mind in future, when you post here, that I will get annoyed if you post anything here that implies that the working class is male.

    Surely you will agree with me that we are not brothers?

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    Paula in personal capacity not as moderator

    #247599
    paula.mcewan
    Moderator

    I can understand the despair of Labour Party activists watching its “Leader” side with USA and our Conservative Government. At a time when – hopefully- the whole world recognises that Israel is on the wrong side of human history.

    #247600
    paula.mcewan
    Moderator

    I almost – but not really – feel sorry for Labour Party activists who thought they were in a socialist party.

    #247601
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I’m sorry Almamater. I didn’t realise you were quoting an organisation not yourself with your comment about “class brothers”.

    However please bear in mind in future, when you post here, that I will get annoyed if you post anything here that implies that the working class is male.

    Surely you will agree with me that we are not brothers?

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    What about if say that the working class is female ? I am not so stupid and ignorant to say that the working class is male, I have known the real conception for several decades, even more, my mother and father run a business together for several decades too

    #247603
    paula.mcewan
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    #247604
    ZJW
    Participant

    On Hamas as a Frankenstein-monster product of Israeli anti-PLO machinations and further developments:

    https://starkrealities.substack.com/p/israel-fostered-the-rise-of-hamas

    #247605
    ALB
    Keymaster

    Paula, you can contact the ICC here to point out their lapse in apparently ignoring one half of the working class:

    https://en.internationalism.org/contact

    Here is the statement again you will be complaining about;

    https://en.internationalism.org/content/17406/neither-israel-nor-palestine-workers-have-no-fatherland

    It will be interesting to see what they will reply.

    #247607
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I have sent them a message to Spain because in their Spanish version of the articles they use the expression: “Hermanos de clases”, and in Spanish it means brothers and sisters, men and women, only when you specific use the expression referring to one person it means man ( hombre ) and Mujer ( woman ) in French the used the same expression:nous sommes des frères de classe, and in Italian noi siamo fratelli di classe, and in Portuguese somos irmãos de classe. Sometimes their articles are written in Spain and then they are translated to English, French, Italian and Portuguese

    #247608
    ALB
    Keymaster

    So it could just be a mistranslation. The statement seems to have been written in French and then translated into the other languages. Their German translator appears to have been aware of the problem and translated it as:

    “Auf beiden Seiten der Grenze sind wir Klassenbrüder und -schwestern!”

    #247609
    Lizzie45
    Blocked

    Auf beiden Seiten der Grenze sind wir Klassenbrüder und -schwestern!

    On both sides of the border, we are class brothers and sisters!

    #247610

    Mod Notice:

    I think we’re in danger of straying off the discussion of this thread, I think we can consider the brothers/sisters issue closed, or else move it to another thread.

    #247627
    ALB
    Keymaster

    It looks as if the crazed Zionists in charge of the Israeli state are about to overplay their hand. The whole world is against what they are doing and are about to do to the population of Gaza. It’s not a question of breaking the so-called “rules of war” which are scrap of paper for those who win and are used only as a pretext to further kick those who lose. It’s about common humanity. Everybody can see that they are behaving in a completely inhumane way. As might is right in today’s capitalist world they will probably achieve their aim, but at the cost of exposing Zionism as a particularly nasty and cruel example of nationalism.

    #247646
    ALB
    Keymaster

    What we said last time;

    https://socialiststandardmyspace.blogspot.com/2015/01/the-war-in-gaza.html?m=1

    “In the 50-day military operation by Israel against the Palestinian people in Gaza in July to September 2014, 2,199 Gazans were killed, 70 percent of them civilians, 10,895 were wounded and 65,000 people left homeless. A third of hospitals were destroyed or damaged. Mufeed al-Hasayneh, Minister of Public Works, said Israel’s offensive on Gaza has caused over $5 billion of damage to homes and infrastructure. Some 10,000 homes have been completely destroyed, and 30,000 homes partially destroyed. In Shujaiyya, where some 110,000 people live, 60 percent of the homes were completely destroyed (Ma’an News Agency, 5 August 2014)”

    They have already exceeded the killing and destruction of last time and they haven’t even started properly yet this time.

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