Amazon Locker at HO?
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Would it be worth hosting an Amazon Locker at Head Office to drive visitors into head office?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/b?node=9112273031
The nearest one to HO is the post office at the other end of the High Street.
jondwhite wrote:Would it be worth hosting an Amazon Locker at Head Office to drive visitors into head office?You've gotta be fucking joking. Amazon is the last company in the world we should contemplate having any truck with.https://medium.com/@parismarx/jeff-bezos-can-thank-exploited-workers-for-his-100-billion-d3d5245a6e1bhttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/22/amazon-brutal-work-culturehttps://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/12/7-examples-how-amazon-treats-their-90000-warehouse.htmlhttps://www.huffingtonpost.com/cody-cain/amazons-labor-exploitatio_b_8012826.htmlhttp://www.businessinsider.com/brutal-conditions-in-amazons-warehouses-2013-8?IR=T
Yes and Yahoo! out political dissidents to the Chinese government and we use Yahoo! for internal communications.Facebook help rig general elections but we even link to them on our website.As far as I know, all capitalist companies exploit workers, factories are physically hard work and supermarkets break up trade unions. Tech companies have some particular egregious practices, but Amazon hasn't rigged general elections or outed political dissidents.
jondwhite wrote:Yes and Yahoo! out political dissidents to the Chinese government and we use Yahoo! for internal communications.Facebook help rig general elections but we even link to them on our website.As far as I know, all capitalist companies exploit workers, factories are physically hard work and supermarkets break up trade unions. Tech companies have some particular egregious practices, but Amazon hasn't rigged general elections or outed political dissidents.Several wrongs never make a right. And I've been wanting to ditch Yahoo! for years and wouldn't shed many tears about losing Facebook.However, Amazon is in a class of its own and we as a party should do nothing to further enhance the wealth of the richest and one of the most ruthless individuals in the world.Read the links I gave – you might learn something!
I find this a tricky subject, Living abroad and accessing books is not a simpe matter. For years I used Abebooks which used to be an independent organisation with a huge network of individual booksellers around the world and my books would arrive from the UK, US, India. Then Amazon took over Abe although the booksellers are still independent – I don't know how that works! The only reason I would order from Amazon is if I couldn't source it on Abe or directly from a publisher.As to inviting them into Head Office, well yes, that does seem to be going against the pale, however we are having to contend with capitalist businesses day after day after day and there are times when knowing that one can't escape them we have to choose one for whatever reason we come up with. We are unable to live outside the system and that maybe our greatest challenge.The list of hateful companies seems to be endless – perhaps the only approach, apart from continuing the struggle against the system, is to use them to our advantage wherever possible.
This sounds like a sales pitch. We should attract workers based on our principles but not based on the popularity of a corporation, in that case, we can also have a Starbucks, a Subway store in the HO, or a bar to serve whisky and beers. We might have a bunch of drunk peoples shouting: Long live the Socialist Party !!!Amazon has a long history of abuses against the working class. The last news from Amazon is that workers have been limited to go to the bathroom forcing them to pee in a bottle. It is like a sweatshopThe owner has been under the attack of Donald Trump but that is bullshit because he is also the owner of a large capitalist newspaper known as the Washington Post, a paper which has supported many wars and killings, racial discrimination, and historical distortions.I do not want to see the Socialist Party mixed with any corporation, we have to be very careful with our political prestige and our long history of supporting the cause of the working classhttp://digg.com/2018/amazon-workers-pee
J Surman wrote:I find this a tricky subject, Living abroad and accessing books is not a simpe matter. For years I used Abebooks which used to be an independent organisation with a huge network of individual booksellers around the world and my books would arrive from the UK, US, India. Then Amazon took over Abe although the booksellers are still independent – I don't know how that works! The only reason I would order from Amazon is if I couldn't source it on Abe or directly from a publisher.As to inviting them into Head Office, well yes, that does seem to be going against the pale, however we are having to contend with capitalist businesses day after day after day and there are times when knowing that one can't escape them we have to choose one for whatever reason we come up with. We are unable to live outside the system and that maybe our greatest challenge.The list of hateful companies seems to be endless – perhaps the only approach, apart from continuing the struggle against the system, is to use them to our advantage wherever possible.Amazon is also taking over the Food Industry, and they are lobbying to eliminate certain food regulations. The workers have received many defeats thru the food industry and supermarket because many unions have been eliminated and unions are only permitted in certain locations. Whole Foods is not unionizedhttps://www.thebalancesmb.com/united-food-and-commercial-workers-unions-2892824
Following on from Marcos – Yes, probably most contributors here know about the ever-increasing takeovers taking place over the globe, whether it being food, pharmeceutical, agriculture, military hardware, etc., as the big companies become giants power is in fewer hands. This is what we are fighting against constantly, this is what we are struggling to overcome by drawing as much attention to these problems as possible. Our aim is to reveal as widely as possible in whatever way we can that WE, the people of the world, need to engage together and do whatever we can to bring about the change in everyone's interest.We cannot use BDS (boycott, divest and sanction) against the capitalist system as a whole- we have to eat if nothing else! But if we can use the names of these companies to promote socialist ideas by continuing to reveal the problems they cause us and a better way of dealing with all of our global problems.
If we wish to attract visitors to our HO which is on a busy thoroughfare with a heavy foot-fall, there are better ways. A cafe/bookshop/reading room/internet/photocopying resource centre.We could rent space out for meetings which would require some sort of pre-vetting so i'm not so sure about that suggestion, myself.But as Gnome will rightly point out – we need the volunteers (or as some seek, paid party workers)…reliable times of opening…and perhaps added security to restrict access to non-public areas.Anyway, as i often say…if wishes were horses, every tramp would ride.
alanjjohnstone wrote:If we wish to attract visitors to our HO which is on a busy thoroughfare with a heavy foot-fall, there are better ways. A cafe/bookshop/reading room/internet/photocopying resource centre.We could rent space out for meetings which would require some sort of pre-vetting so i'm not so sure about that suggestion, myself.But as Gnome will rightly point out – we need the volunteers (or as some seek, paid party workers)…reliable times of opening…and perhaps added security to restrict access to non-public areas.Anyway, as i often say…if wishes were horses, every tramp would ride.Somebody mention me?Suggestions as to how to attract visitors have been both manifold and perennial but without the requisite volunteers that's what they'll remain – suggestions.However, they may be some light at the end of the tunnel. From this month until further notice comrade volunteers will staff HO Monday thru Thursday from at least 10.30am until 3.30 pm each day.
What about hosting parcel shops or delivery lockers not specifically amazonhttps://www.apex-insight.com/parcel-shops-and-locker-networks/or hosting an cafe to attract visitors like firebox did in London a few years ago?
jondwhite wrote:What about hosting parcel shops or delivery lockers not specifically amazonhttps://www.apex-insight.com/parcel-shops-and-locker-networks/or hosting an cafe to attract visitors like firebox did in London a few years ago?i think Johnstones suggestion is the best of having a reading , internet and coffee and bookstore. Many political organizations had similar set up during the Cold War period and the sixties
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