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A reasoned article on the tragedy in WWhttp://weeklyworker.co.uk/worker/1020/cold-facts-and-conspiracy-theories/
I was wondering if anyone thinks this situation could escalate into war. It has all the potential symptoms, territorial claims and takeover, military stategic interests, escalating economic tension and diplomatic breakdown?
Anything can happen but it seems that bellicose sabre-rattling will be the most to expect.Lots of armament deals to Ukraine (and Poland) to be expected. The chill of the Cold War returning.
Quote:Putin—whom he characterized as escalating the crisis inside Ukraine—“may actually light a fire” he cannot control. And not just in Ukraine or eastern Europe, Dempsey said, but globally.SocialistPunk wrote:I was wondering if anyone thinks this situation could escalate into war. It has all the potential symptoms, territorial claims and takeover, military stategic interests, escalating economic tension and diplomatic breakdown?I do not think there is going to be a war between US and Russia at this time. The Cuban missiles crisis was more dangerous, or it was closer to an atomic war to take place, and they came into an agreement. The thing is that we are living in a very dangerous world, probably more dangerous than during the period of the cold war
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I'm not sure if this has been discussed on another thread or even mentioned here. But can anyone confirm whether or not Russia's interest in the Crimea is due to the presence of oil and gas fields?
SocialistPunk wrote:I'm not sure if this has been discussed on another thread or even mentioned here. But can anyone confirm whether or not Russia's interest in the Crimea is due to the presence of oil and gas fields?One of the main purposes of the Nazis invasion toward Russia ( Soviet Union ) was in order to take control of their oil and gas reserves, and when the war in Iraq started the Russian government moved their best fleet to the Caspian region, they did not want another thief to compete with them. The Germans were using everything to run their war machinery, but they did not have access to large deposits of petroleums like the Americans ( USA ) and the British.The main objectives of the US is to take control of those resources, and many Americans oil companies want to take over the distributions, the pipes lines, and the access to the ocean for the transportation, and the Russians capitalists do not want to lose them, it is the same thing taking place in South Asia, and the agreement signed with the Philippines is in order to put a motion a venture with an oil company located in that island. They are oil junkies.There are large reserves of oil and gas in the Gaza strip, and the capitalists of Israel and Palestine want to take control of those resources, even more, Hamas and the Israel have tried to come into an agreement in order splitt the profits, but the Israel government does not want those profits to be used in order to buy modern weapons It is just another conflict for oil and gas wrapped in the defense of the human rights, national defense, and all that crap that the capitalists have always used in order to justify their criminals acts, and some fools believe those allegations, and then they end defending their own class enemies. I have never seen Al Qaeda millitias, or terrorist showing up in places where they are planting coconuts tree, and tomatoes The Americans have always killed thousands and millions of peoples with the same excuse of saving American lives, Americans properties, and importing democracy, or to teach others peoples how to become democrats, as always the main reasons is market They sent 50,000 troops to the Dominican Republic to pick up a couples of tourist in 1965, which were taking a sun tan, drinking rum and cokes, and beers in the beach of Boca Chica, and in a few days they killed more than 10 thousands peoples, and those peoples were defending themselves with Machetes, and old weapons machines guns, and revolver that had to be cooled using water buckets. Anybody can be a champion under those conditions PD They went to Boca Chica in order to proliferate prostitution, and since that day the proliferation of cocaine, and corruptions increased drastically. like in the old days of the Spaniards, French and Portuguese when Opium, slaves, priests, the Bible, and thieves travelled together in the same battleship.
When Russia seized Crimea in March, it acquired not just the Crimean landmass but also a maritime zone more than three times its size with the rights to underwater resources potentially worth trillions of dollars. Russia portrayed the takeover as reclamation of its rightful territory, drawing no attention to the oil and gas rush that had recently been heating up in the Black Sea. But the move also extended Russia’s maritime boundaries, quietly giving Russia dominion over vast oil and gas reserves while dealing a crippling blow to Ukraine’s hopes for energy independence. Russia did so under an international accord that gives nations sovereignty over areas up to 230 miles from their shorelines. It had tried, unsuccessfully, to gain access to energy resources in the same territory in a pact with Ukraine less than two years earlier. “It’s a big deal,” said Carol R. Saivetz, a Eurasian expert in the Security Studies Program of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. “It deprives Ukraine of the possibility of developing these resources and gives them to Russia. It makes Ukraine more vulnerable to Russian pressure.”http://tinyurl.com/kheneph
The Chinese have also extended their sea boundaries, and they are trying to claim ownership over several islands which exist in the area near Vietnam and Philippines, and the last ones are making the same claim at the same time, as well, the 'pacifist' Japanese want to extend their sea boundaries . Within a few years China will be needing as much oil as the USA. During the period of the cold war there were only two thieves claiming ownership of the resources of the earth, but at the present there are too many claiming ownership too, therefore, the situation is more dangerous than before
Thanks mcolome1 and hallblithe, I've been coming across sites that spoke of the oil connection but wasn't sure of the reliability etc so anything that confirms it is appreciated. Keep it coming people.
These circumstances seem to fit the criteria for war.It only remains to be seen which side China favours. Should China occupy the Diaoyu (china) / Senkaku ( japan) islands, it might wellbe mindful to take heed of british govt. advise. Apply sticky tape to all windows, because flying glass can maim. Store water in containers. Remove an internal door and prop it ag.ainst the stair wall. The whole family should shelter under this door. Keep a flash lamp handy. Do not venture outside till you hear the" all clear." Oh, and one last thought, singing songs like," row, row, row your boat" and "ten green bottles," might help pass the time and keepmoral high.
Not sure about the source, reliability etc, but an interesting article.http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/blog/roland-flamini/crimea-putins-war-oil-and-gas
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