Israel V Iran
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Anybody care to comment on the differing content and emphasis of the BBC and the Guardian
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43952196
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/30/netanyahu-accuses-iran-cheating-nuclear-deal
I would say that it's due to bad reporting and/or sub-editing by the Grauniad, one of the reasons why it's going down the pan.On the substantive issue, it's going to be interesting — a dodgy dossier case where the bombing powers are on different sides. This could result in a more objective discussion of the issue and dissection of the allegations in the mainstream media than when the three bombing states are on the same side..But what a hypocrite Nutty Yahoo is. As if israel had not itself secretly, and successfully, developed mass destruction nuclear weapons and still won't admit that it has done this.
I would think that future historians of capitalism's wars will come to the conclusion that the establishment of Israel and its sustaining as an outpost of the Western capitalist powers to further their interests in the Middle East was a monumental mistake even by capitalism's standards.
ALB wrote:I would say that it's due to bad reporting and/or sub-editing by the Grauniad, one of the reasons why it's going down the pan.On the substantive issue, it's going to be interesting — a dodgy dossier case where the bombing powers are on different sides. This could result in a more objective discussion of the issue and dissection of the allegations in the mainstream media than when the three bombing states are on the same side..But what a hypocrite Nutty Yahoo is. As if israel had not itself secretly, and successfully, developed mass destruction nuclear weapons and still won't admit that it has done this.It is the only country in the Middle East which has atomic bombs, tactical atomic bombs, and WMD, Why the Western Powers have not formed a coalition to send an invasion toward Israel like they did with Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan? Israel is a creation of the Western Powers, but it might turn its guns against them.They are always talking about the Islamists terrorists, but they have made an alliance with them, and they have a hospital to provide medical treatment to Islamists terrorists.They can kill the Palestinians but the so-called Human rights organizations do not bring any actions against them, and just a few journalists who have written about its crime.They have green lights to do whatever they want around the world including kidnapping like they did in Argentina when they violated the law of another nation and kidnapped a German General living in that country and then they executed him. They can not criticize the Nazis or the Fascists
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/bibis-information-warfare-operation-against-america/A good essay from Scott Ritter, the ex-UN Iraq WMD inspectorRalph Naderhttps://www.commondreams.org/views/2018/05/03/wake-trump-distraction-and-war-iran
https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/05/07/trump-and-netanyahu-may-not-want-war-with-iran-but-they-may-fall-into-one-anyway/A balanced view from Patrick Cockburn
Quote:Governments everywhere want to present themselves as the sole defenders of their citizens against some hideous menace from abroad. Iran fulfils this role for the US, Israel, Saudi Arabia and the Sunni rulers of the Gulf and acts as a useful glue for national solidarity and a diversion from domestic grievances. Belief in an all-embracing Iranian conspiracy fuels paranoiahttp://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44045957The USA is breaking its treaty obligations so it now increases the chances of either an American or Israeli attack or even Saudi Arabia on Iran once Iran resumes its nuclear programme.It is also a threat to escalate the trade war in the sense that EU and other businesses trading with Iran will also face sanctions from the US
Is this going to be a pretext for going after Iranian forces and/or its ally Hezbollah and an escalation towards war?http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44046049
Quote:"For months now, Iran has been transferring lethal weaponry to its forces in Syria, with the purpose of striking at Israel… We will respond mightily to any attack on our territory," Netanyahu said.As soon as the USA withdrew itself from the Iranian treaty, Israel launched a military strike in Syria. It does show that they want to provoke Iran or Syria to start a war in the Middle East with the participation of the USA millitary forces. The USA is looking for WMD and regime change in Iran and Syria like it was done in Iraq and Lybia. Another conflict for oil and gasNever say oil:https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/2000s/2004/no-1196-april-2004/never-say-oilOil and Gas in Gaza:https://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/jul/09/israel-war-gaza-palestine-natural-gas-energy-crisis
The prelude to war?Israel accuses Iranians of launching rockets at IDF on Golan Heightshttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/09/iran-fires-20-rockets-syria-golan-heights-israelIDF spokesman, Lt Col Jonathan Conricus, told reporters, “This event is not over.”
I always read Fisk.https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-iran-nuclear-deal-withdrawal-colonel-gaddafi-us-libya-a8342871.htmlTrump and Iran
Quote:All US presidents say how much they love the people they are about to invade.long-suffering same about the Iraqis. So did Reagan before he bombed Gaddafi’s Libya. Now Trump feels sorry for the “long suffering Iranians”. Trump reminded us all of a time when Iran “prospered in peace” and “commanded the admiration of the world” – and no-one has spotted that he was referring to the Shah’s Iran whose Savak secret police kept Iranians in a state of permanent fear and terror through a programme of obscene tortures.Less than 24 hours after breaking the international agreement that guaranteed Iran would not develop nuclear weapons, President Donald Trump threatened Iran. "Iran will find out, they're gonna find out," Trump said during a Cabinet meeting when asked what he would do if Iran "restarts" its nuclear program. "I don't think they should do that. I would advise Iran not to start their nuclear program. If they do, there will be very severe consequence." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/05/09/day-after-ditching-international-deal-trump-threatens-very-severe-consequence-if
On cue, Israel has 'retaliated'.The IDF’s Arabic-language Twitter account said its military was “moving” against Iranian targets in Syria and warned Damascus not to intervene. The Syrian capital was shaken with explosions as jets flew overheard before dawn,.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/09/iran-fires-20-rockets-syria-golan-heights-israel
It struck me in the media reporting that today's Israel air attacks are described as retaliation to Iran's barrage upon Golan Heights, none that were aimed at Israel territory itself, yet the fact seems that the Iranians were the ones who were retaliating to the bombing reported above by Marcos, one that took place within hours of the US reneging on the nuclear treaty with Iran.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/09/iran-fires-20-rockets-syria-golan-heights-israel
Trump says he has revoked that nuclear treaty because of the "malign influence" of Iran in the region. But that's not the only "malign influence" there. There's also the US and its ally Saudi Arabia and the "rogue states" there it can't control, Turkey and Israel. All the states involved there are pursuing the economic and strategic interests of their ruling class, It's capitalism and the conflicts of interest it generates between states that is the real "malign influence" in the Middle East and the rest of the world.
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