1900 reference to SPGB in New York Daily Tribune letter
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July 30, 2017 at 9:51 pm #85645jondwhiteParticipant
Can anyone shed any light on this prescient turn of phrase? I searched for "socialist party of great britain" here
https://search.usa.gov/search?affiliate=usagov&query=%22socialist+party+of+great+britain%22
And the results returned a letter in the New York Daily Tribune referencing the "Radical-Socialist Party of Great Britain". Presumably this must be a reference to some other group since it was published in 1900 predating the party's formation by 4 years?
July 31, 2017 at 4:19 am #129095twcParticipantA clue to the intended end-of-the-19th-century “socialist party” is given by the author’s attack on 19th century “socialist” Robert Cunninghame Graham.Cunninghame Graham’s political career and his close associations with radicals (Morris, Shaw, Hardie, Burns, Besant, Eleanor Marx, …), writers (Conrad, Shaw, Chesterton, …), artists (Rothenstein, Whistler, …) are summarised: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bontine_Cunninghame_GrahamBefore getting to the intended “socialist party”, it’s hard not to notice that the article appeared in Marx’s old US newspaper, the New York Daily Tribune, that was founded in the 1840s by Horace Greeley and was edited, in Marx's era, by Charles Dana (who, in the 1840s, supported Proudhon’s crank mutualist-banking scheme which Marx, and history, demolished, but which still rises today).The article makes mildly interesting reading today, a century after the Boer War, and a quarter of a century after the collapse of white political rule in Southern Africa.Basically, the writer is condemning Cunninghame Graham’s pro-Boer, anti-British stance over the Boer War, and [his perceived implication] that the US should intervene militarily on the side of the Boers.Byron Farwell, in “Taking Sides in the Boer War”, exposes the political dilemma posed by any US military intervention for Boer independence: http://www.americanheritage.com/content/taking-sides-boer-war
Farwell wrote:“The [US] administration’s position was understandable. It would have been hypocritical indeed for the American government to side with the Boers fighting for their independence from Britain while at the same time continuing to hunt down and kill Filipinos who were fighting for their independence from us. The situations in South Africa and the Philippines were embarrassingly similar.”Cunninghame Graham’s friend, the novelist, Joseph Conrad, was less virulently opposed to British military aggression, seeing anti-British German influence at work among the Boers. Such are the puzzles, hypocracies and irresolvable contradictions inherent in the Capitalist mindset.Politically, Cunninghame Graham finished up founding the Scottish National Party.Now consider which end-of-the-19th-century “socialist party” the writer is referring to…Perhaps, through Cunninghame Graham’s joint membership of the Scottish Labour Party with Keir Hardie, the writer is referring to Hardie’s Independent Labour Party — the ILP.Needless to say, Cunninghame Graham has nothing essential in common with the Socialist Party of Great Britain.
August 1, 2017 at 10:03 am #129096jondwhiteParticipantCheers for this. Intriguing. It must be a reference to the Scottish Labour Party or ILP.
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