Question: What is the relationship between Timebanks.org and Socialism or communism etc? What is the name for this economy.

thanks. I've read your link.  It misses some key points I've been making repeatedly.  But I don't think you want to hear about it. So just know that I've read your link arguments and said "I already knew that and clearly if you think this is what I'm proposing you do not undersand what I'm proposing."  But I think this isn't the place to discuss it anymore and people here have already closed the book on further consideration of time value exchange system engineering as relevant.  I do appreciate your finding the link for me though and I thought it was well written and worth my time to read.  

Thank you for that valuable link that was more than worth my time reading.  I think the author makes some good points, but is stuck unable to think outside the capitalist framework of capital value.  However, a lot of the problems mentioned in the LETS critique have been discovered and confirmed by timebanks.org. solutions have been found and they have a book on what they call co-production call the "no more throw away people.".  I'm reading the book now, but it tells how timebanks.org encountered some of those problems and what they learned and how they solved those problems.  Some of the problems mentioned in the critique of LETS seem to still be present in timebanks such as the problem of pooling resources to produce large works.  I've attempted to address those problems with my universal values exchange system protoocols.  Other problems mentioned in the critique such as "this is no better than real money" are clearly wrong as the author admits in advance that the peopel using it might not have access to "real money".  Finally the author completely ignores and doesn't seem to understand the fundamental difference between how time as a digital curency works compared with property as a base unit for digital currency.  I would certainly agree that the authors arguments are valid for a mere replacement capital value digital currency.  But for a time value digital currency, things change remarkably. this should be obvious to you and everyone in the forum because it's impossible to separate the means of producing hours from the individual. For comparison only select people, mostly in banks, have the means to produce money. as a simple failure indicator for the critique of LETS, by worldsocialism.org . . . if this critque were correct then bitcoin would not exist.  since bitcoin does exist, this critique is contradicted by reality. So the critique as a whole is flaws, but may contain bits of wisdom that are correct and get misinterpreted or mixed with false assumptions or reasoning to make the whole conclusion false. 

@DJP,Thanks for the repliyCan you provide a link top a list of requirements to determine if something is under the defintion of "socialised production".  I want  a test of like 5 or 10 items that I can look at and check off to see if something is socialised production.  or possibly just a list of what particular requirements for meeting the term socialized production are missing from timebanks.  I get the feeling people here disagree on the list and possibly that it might contain impossibilities making it a self contradiction. If you include abstract ideas in your list like "no personal property" then perhaps a test to determine if there is personal property would be helpfull. exactly how you define personal property without refering to property itself would be valuable to me.  presumably socialist in a post socialist revolution society would still need to talk about capitalism historically and since they don't have property or ownership, then they would have to explain the concept of property to others.   I'm stil looking for a practical example of how socialist in a post-socialist revolution coordinate their activities and decision making to build something like a road and plan where it should go.  So far all I hear is "there will be no need for that in socialism." which is pretty much just waving of hands and distracting from the "no answer" truth.  Answer's like "they'll do it with community" are also not usefull unless you define the exact mechanism.  I'm looking for something like. . . in order to build a bridge in socialist production these are the steps to follow. . .1) conduct a survey about the cost of the bridge by asking experience and qualified bridge builders.2) conduct a survey about the need for the brindge by asking. . .3) plan work hours and budget4) etc. . .p.s. I know these above are probably wrong cause that's what I always hear here.  so think of them as guides for what kind of answer I'm looking for from you and not as an answer I'm trying to convince you of.