Moderators decision on Cde. Maratty’s indefinite forum ban
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After full consultation the moderators decided, Cde Vin Maratty be informed:
The indefinite suspension stays in place until further notice from the EC for it to be rescinded.
We advise he follows the appropriate procedure and makes a formal appeal to the EC for the ban to be rescinded.
Cde V Maratty should take the initiative himself of seeking redress from the EC and present his case so to ensure it contains a sincere contrition for past conduct
Agreed by Moderator 1 (Cde. Johnson), Moderator 2 (Cde. Johnstone) and Moderator 3 (Cde. Davison)
Published on behalf of Vin Maratty 1. These meetings should be held on a public mailing list like spintcom as no one knows what information is past around and how the decision was arrived at. 2 Nevertheless, your decision assumes I am to blame for all my suspensions and no other party took part and I alone must must confess my sins and seek forgiveness. I have already made apologies for my part and they were rejected..The IC and Mods have acted in an appalling manner towards me and without any regret or any apologies. 3. It is not for the EC to decide, it is for you three members to decide. If you have been told differently then you have been misled. There is no EC decision on this matter. The decision is yours and yours only. Do not blame the EC . You are banning a member from the forum. . No one else5. Every time it enters my head to have another go: to do my bit. I am publicly humiliated like now (also see video thread)6. In this year of 2016 and in the advanced capitalist world only a very few extremist still believe in 'life' meaning life. Indeed, there is a reformist movement seeking to prevent 'punishments' exceeding 1 year as it is inhumane to extend punishment further7. You use the term 'contrition' Definition: the repentance of past sins during or after confession. "prayers of contrition"Really?We a revolutionary movement not a religious sect. I was brought up a catholic, felt the guilt and confessed and felt pure. I rejected such nonsense at 14 year old.If I am allowed to publish my ‘act of contrition’ on this thread then I will go along with it.Do you seriously believe I will receive an unbiased response from the present EC? vin
Vin wishes to make an act of contrition as requested by the IC and as a democrat and as an athiest I completely disagree but hey, free speech, what a pain. If only we could just make up some excuse to shut him up. I am sure you will think of somethingHope you dont hold it against meAct of contrition: Please father forgive me for I have sinned. It has been two months since my last confession List of sins since my last confession 1. I have gone off topic more times than most but not all, see for example LBird (Venial Sin)2. I have challenged moderator’s decision's on more than one occasion. In future I will assume the divine right of all moderators and promise to never question their decisions again , regardless of how ridiculous they seem (Venial Sin)3. I apologies for referring to a moderator as ‘acting like a prick’ even though the evidence was overwhelming in my favour. He issued inappropriate and biased warnings and bans(Mortal Sin)4. I will never again refer to a comrade as a ‘little Hitler’ even if he or she does act in a petty dictatorial manner. (Mortal sin) For my penance I will say six Hail Mary’s and six of the Lord’s Prayer and wear a hair shirt for three months.As per the Order of St Benedict, I will maintain a complete silence for a period of one Calendar Month Hope this satisfies the revolutionary movement for a better world
Vin said I am receiving private emails from the IC I am of the opinion that these should be public in line with our basic principles. If the IC or mods wish to reply to me they should do so here and in public view
Vin wrote:I was brought up a catholic, felt the guilt and confessed and felt pure. I rejected such nonsense at 14 year old.I was brought up a catholic, too, Vin. And an Engelsist.But I have since rejected all those who insist that the 'creator' is not humanity.Whereas you, unfortunately, cling to 'Materialism', and its god 'Matter', which no worker shall challenge.
Vin wrote:List of sins since my last confession1. I have gone off topic more times than most but not all, see for example LBird (Venial Sin)I think you severely underestimate the category of my 'sin', Vin.Denying the power, authority and finality of 'Matter' infuriates the 'Materialists', who can see this denial is a denial of their 'special consciousness' which workers cannot have, and so it undermines them in the eyes of democratic workers.As such, I'm committing Mortal Sin, according to the Religious Materialists who wish to adore and contemplate 'matter'.Watch me do it again, completely without contrition:'Only the democratic producers can determine by democratic means whether 'matter' exists for them'. Workers can vote 'matter' out of existence. 'Matter' is not a universal category, but a socio-historically produced category. And as such, we can change it.There we go!Destination 'Hell'!Hope to see you there, Vin, comrade.
moderator2 wrote:That's an American English dictionary. A British English dictionary has:1. deeply felt remorse; penitence2. Christianity detestation of past sins and a resolve to make amends, either from love of God (perfect contrition) or from hope of heaven (imperfect contrition)http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/contrition– Lew
Regarding the meaning of the word "contrition", "contrite" etc. From a secular point of view it simply refers to a sense of sincerely held regret for past behaviour. From a religious point of view it refers to sin and repentanceWe have a choice as to what we think it means in its context, as a word in a statement coming from the forum moderators of the well known christian revivalist organisation, The Socialist Party of Great Britain.
SocialistPunk wrote:We have a choice as to what we think it means in its context, as a word in a statement coming from the forum moderators of the well known christian revivalist organisation, the Socialist Party of Great Britain.vin said: Well it;s beginning to look that way Asking members ti do penance and apologies to the selfrighteous brothers SP this has been the problem hasn't it. You make a statement in the OP, change your hat and defend your own statement. I honestly thought things would change when you and Alan joined the IC 'Meet the new boss, same as the old boss' Pete Townsend
Vin saidL that was a little unfair. I was expecting my opinions to be delete so yes, you and alan have made a difference.
Would it be preferable to put my moderators hat on to point out the use of one word does not have a religious meaning in the statement?I would have thought the secular meaning of the word would be obvious? Obviously not.
SocialistPunk wrote:Would it be preferable to put my moderators hat on to point out the use of one word does not have a religious meaning in the statement?I would have thought the secular meaning of the word would be obvious? Obviously not.Vin said,well you introduced the term in the OP. So it would only be fair to declare your interest in defending it's use? Some words do not have a secular use 'sin' is one such example. The IC statement is clearly stating that Cde V Maratty needs to admit to his sins and make an act of contrition. I have done that publicly. Is it sufficient?
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