How long does a warning apply for?
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Sat, 22/10/2016 – 7:41pm
Just out of interest, I know it's slightly off topic, but do warnings expire like driving licence points? I've had a few of those in my time. It would seem fair that posters can reduce their culpability by prolonged good behaviour.
moderator1 wrote:Sat, 22/10/2016 – 7:41pm#15Tim KilgallonOfflineJoined:17/11/2015Send PM Just out of interest, I know it's slightly off topic, but do warnings expire like driving licence points? I've had a few of those in my time. It would seem fair that posters can reduce their culpability by prolonged good behaviour.That very question is on the moderators agenda for discussion.
And I would like to know what the procedure is for removing spam off this forum? It is now 12 hours since this item appeared in the off-topic sub-forum but the three moderators and admin seem blissfully unaware…http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/forum/topic/heres-how-presidential-candidates-eat-sleep-and-work-out#comment-35881
gnome wrote:And I would like to know what the procedure is for removing spam off this forum? It is now 12 hours since this item appeared in the off-topic sub-forum but the three moderators and admin seem blissfully unaware…http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/forum/topic/heres-how-presidential-candidates-eat-sleep-and-work-out#comment-35881Thanks for that. Post deleted.
moderator1 wrote:That very question is on the moderators agenda for discussion.Could we please see a copy of this agenda and where and when it will be discussed?
The discussion on the other thread on the suspension of L and V Maratty has been locked for some reason but I felt I needed to say something about it on this thread because it is connected I think this whole saga is so sad and so unnecessary, Tempers are flaring on all sides and, Linda, I think your post no 48 on the other thread was bang out of order and some of the comments you made were, frankly, quite absurd, even if I can understand the frustration behind it. I don't myself agree with the idea of a permanent suspension – on principle – and I am one of those who think Vin should be reinstated. Though I am not a party member can I suggest that all sides in this dispute take a deep breath and start again to reach a cordial agreement on the way forward. And Alan should you be reading this I would urge you to return to the forum, Your ever interesting posts would be sorely missed if you did notC'mon comrades. Kiss and make up. This is just ridiculous falling out like this
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robbo203 wrote:The discussion on the other thread on the suspension of L and V Maratty has been locked for some reason but I felt I needed to say something about it on this thread because it is connected I think this whole saga is so sad and so unnecessary, Tempers are flaring on all sides and, Linda, I think your post no 48 on the other thread was bang out of order and some of the comments you made were, frankly, quite absurd, even if I can understand the frustration behind it. I don't myself agree with the idea of a permanent suspension – on principle – and I am one of those who think Vin should be reinstated.Though I am not a party member can I suggest that all sides in this dispute take a deep breath and start again to reach a cordial agreement on the way forward. And Alan should you be reading this I would urge you to return to the forum, Your ever interesting posts would be sorely missed if you did notC'mon comrades. Kiss and make up. This is just ridiculous falling out like thisSpot on Robin, and the stifling of free speech by the moderators' constant and increasing interventions is merely fanning the flames. A classic case, sadly, if there ever was one, of power corrupting.
robbo203 wrote:I don't myself agree with the idea of a permanent suspension – on principle – and I am one of those who think Vin should be reinstated.As does the SPGB 2016 Annual Delegate Meeting and the SPGB November Executive Committee. Dear Vin, – Your Forum suspension – The EC, at their meeting of 5th November, considered correspondence between the Internet Committee and yourself, which was supplied by the Internet Committee in response to a request made by them,at their October meeting (item 2c Motion 2 of the October EC minutes). They also considered the request sent by yourself to have your forum suspension lifted and a floor resolution carried at the 2016 ADM ("This ADM recommends the Executive Committee to overturn the indefinite ban on Comrade V. Maratty on the website internet forum, spintcom and spopen”) by delegates with a vote of 8–2–3. The EC thanked the Internet Committee for their reply to their request of October, and endorse their actions in the circumstances. They note that you have, in an email of 15/09/16 to the EC, undertaken to abide by the rules of the Forum, so therefore they lift your suspension and enjoin you to work together with the Internet for our common aim (item 2di Motion 2 page 2 of November EC minutes). I have sent this request to the Internet Committee. YFS, Oliver Bond Acting General Secretary The Internet Committee is acting in flagrant breach of party democracy and displaying disrespect and contempt of the decisions of the membership. Like a leadership it knows what is best for the rest of us. But this will be hidden and swept under the carpet because I will now be permanently banned from this forum as was Vin for expressing the same opinion.
robbo203 wrote:I don't myself agree with the idea of a permanent suspension – on principle – and I am one of those who think Vin should be reinstated.That was the point of view ADM delegates took and the EC endorsed, though actually Vin was not "permanently suspended" but "suspended for an indefinite period". Personally, I'm against that too. If someone is going to be suspended it should be for a definite period.Vin would have been "reinstated", i.e his suspension been lifted, if only he had had the patience to wait till the EC Minutes came out (10 days). Instead he chose to break the rules by opening a second account in a different name. For which he was again suspended but not "indefinitely", only until the next EC Meeting on 3 December, i.e for 2 weeks.And of course he hasn't really been fully suspended as he has been allowed to continue to post through the "lindanesocialist" account..
lindanesocialist wrote:robbo203 wrote:I don't myself agree with the idea of a permanent suspension – on principle – and I am one of those who think Vin should be reinstated.As does the SPGB 2016 Annual Delegate Meeting and the SPGB November Executive Committee. Dear Vin, – Your Forum suspension – The EC, at their meeting of 5th November, considered correspondence between the Internet Committee and yourself, which was supplied by the Internet Committee in response to a request made by them,at their October meeting (item 2c Motion 2 of the October EC minutes). They also considered the request sent by yourself to have your forum suspension lifted and a floor resolution carried at the 2016 ADM ("This ADM recommends the Executive Committee to overturn the indefinite ban on Comrade V. Maratty on the website internet forum, spintcom and spopen”) by delegates with a vote of 8–2–3. The EC thanked the Internet Committee for their reply to their request of October, and endorse their actions in the circumstances. They note that you have, in an email of 15/09/16 to the EC, undertaken to abide by the rules of the Forum, so therefore they lift your suspension and enjoin you to work together with the Internet for our common aim (item 2di Motion 2 page 2 of November EC minutes). I have sent this request to the Internet Committee. YFS, Oliver Bond Acting General Secretary The Internet Committee is acting in flagrant breach of party democracy and displaying disrespect and contempt of the decisions of the membership. Like a leadership it knows what is best for the rest of us. But this will be hidden and swept under the carpet because I will now be permanently banned from this forum as was Vin for expressing the same opinion.
3rd and final warning: Rule 1. The general topic of each forum is given by the posted forum description. Do not start a thread in a forum unless it matches the given topic, and do not derail existing threads with off-topic posts. 15. Queries or appeals relating to particular moderation decisions should be sent directly to the moderators by private message. Do not post such messages to the forum. You must continue to abide by the moderators’ decisions pending the outcome of your appeal.This user will be inform by PM that a further breach of the rules will result in a further suspension.
ALB wrote:Instead he chose to break the rules by opening a second account in a different name. For which he was again suspended but not "indefinitely", only until the next EC Meeting on 3 December, i.e for 2 weeks.He is not allowed to post through my account and he didn't open a second account. I have explalined this to on a number of occassions but you are obviously not listening. The wording of the EC resolution was so therefore they lift your suspension and you are invited to enjoin this does not require any action from the IC. Vin's account was blocked 10 months ago by the IC so he did not have an account. He opened an account with the sanction of the EC and he was blocked by a moderator as a 'sock puppet' account. By definition a sock puppet account requires two active accounts by one user to 'support' and talk to each other. As usual the IC distorted and used the rules to suit their purpose and to prevent Vin from posting.The account was a pseudonym to avoid continued persecution from the Internet committee. Many members including yourself, gnome and Robbo use pseudonyms. Like you he is entitled to anonimity.We are all off topic now but only I will be blocked by the Mods. Wonder why?
Well done, Moderator1. I too am withdrawing from the forum until such time as suitable personnel changes have been made to the Internet Committee and those 'entrusted' with 'laying down the law'.
Moderation noticeWill users please note I've removed the Off-topic # 6, 8. 9. 10. 11. 12, 13 and 15 to the 'Moderation suggestions' thread which is their correct thread. Consequently the warnings issued on the breaching of Rule 1. have been withdrawn.I apologies for any inconvienence this may have caused but despite me posting a reminder on Rule 1. posters ignored this and continued to post Off-topic.You are not making moderation any easier.
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