Democratic Operations of Branches
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March 6, 2016 at 7:32 pm #84682
Bijou Drains
ParticipantAs our Branch Secretary has now been indefinitely suspended from using Spintcom (with moderators citing issues from 2013, for god's sake). Can members of the IC or Spintcom/Forum moderators please explain to me how, with our Branch Secretary unable to use these crucial tools, our branch is going to function in the same way as other party branches? Is it the case that functions available to other branches will not now be available to our branch?
March 6, 2016 at 9:05 pm #118281moderator1
ParticipantTim Kilgallon wrote:As our Branch Secretary has now been indefinitely suspended from using Spintcom (with moderators citing issues from 2013, for god's sake). Can members of the IC or Spintcom/Forum moderators please explain to me how, with our Branch Secretary unable to use these crucial tools, our branch is going to function in the same way as other party branches? Is it the case that functions available to other branches will not now be available to our branch?The suspension of Cde Vince Marraty from SPINTcom and SPopen will not affect the activities of the NERB Branch. Other members of the Branch can still post on those lists and this forum is still open to all members of NERB. In addition, on this forum the Branch has an allocated section to conduct its business.Not all Branches take advantage of the functions available on the lists or indeed on this forum. Yet they still function by using other means of communication. Its highly unlikely that Branch activity will be affected by the suspension of one of its members from the internal party lists.
March 6, 2016 at 9:31 pm #118282Anonymous
InactiveWell said Mod1, member of the IC
March 6, 2016 at 10:27 pm #118283Bijou Drains
Participantmoderator1 wrote:Tim Kilgallon wrote:As our Branch Secretary has now been indefinitely suspended from using Spintcom (with moderators citing issues from 2013, for god's sake). Can members of the IC or Spintcom/Forum moderators please explain to me how, with our Branch Secretary unable to use these crucial tools, our branch is going to function in the same way as other party branches? Is it the case that functions available to other branches will not now be available to our branch?The suspension of Cde Vince Marraty from SPINTcom and SPopen will not affect the activities of the NERB Branch. Other members of the Branch can still post on those lists and this forum is still open to all members of NERB. In addition, on this forum the Branch has an allocated section to conduct its business.Not all Branches take advantage of the functions available on the lists or indeed on this forum. Yet they still function by using other means of communication. Its highly unlikely that Branch activity will be affected by the suspension of one of its members from the internal party lists.
Ah, really glad you agree with my viewpoint that SPINTcom and SPopen are largely an irrelevence, as much use as a one legged man in an arse kicking competition, as my old man used to say.
March 6, 2016 at 10:31 pm #118284Anonymous
InactiveTim Kilgallon wrote:Is it the case that functions available to other branches will not now be available to our branch?The only way to secure the functions essential to the NERB is to ask conference to remove the members of the iC responsible: Tristan Miller and Brian Johnson. Both have silenced and suspended me and deleted the democratic records of the branch.We need to attend or send a written statement. I am willing to help prepare our case for the branch to considerOnly then can we get on with our job. If we don't then these members will continue to hinder us
March 6, 2016 at 11:05 pm #118285moderator1
ParticipantTim Kilgallon wrote:moderator1 wrote:Tim Kilgallon wrote:As our Branch Secretary has now been indefinitely suspended from using Spintcom (with moderators citing issues from 2013, for god's sake). Can members of the IC or Spintcom/Forum moderators please explain to me how, with our Branch Secretary unable to use these crucial tools, our branch is going to function in the same way as other party branches? Is it the case that functions available to other branches will not now be available to our branch?The suspension of Cde Vince Marraty from SPINTcom and SPopen will not affect the activities of the NERB Branch. Other members of the Branch can still post on those lists and this forum is still open to all members of NERB. In addition, on this forum the Branch has an allocated section to conduct its business.Not all Branches take advantage of the functions available on the lists or indeed on this forum. Yet they still function by using other means of communication. Its highly unlikely that Branch activity will be affected by the suspension of one of its members from the internal party lists.
Ah, really glad you agree with my viewpoint that SPINTcom and SPopen are largely an irrelevence, as much use as a one legged man in an arse kicking competition, as my old man used to say.
I did not imply no do I agree with the viewpoint that SPINTcom and SPopen are "largely an irrelevence". In fact far from it for from my perspective the more medium available to individual party members the more choice they have on using the one most appropriate to their communication needs and skills.
March 6, 2016 at 11:30 pm #118286steve colborn
ParticipantSpintcom, spopen are used, if at all, by the meerest, teensiest bit of the membership of the SPGB. Mainly those who are purveyors of, or agree with, the dictats of an unrepresentative, tiny minority, of the party membership!So as you see, an irrelevance from my perspective. More irrelevant still, as one or two members of the Party, without prior warning/warnings, can suspend a fellow Socialists from all posting privileges forthwith and with little, or no comeback upon themselves!!!Its like to me, the narratives our Capitalist opponents have insinuated into the collective consciousness of, scrounging benefit claimants, malingering disabled and all the other guff this engenders!I don't believe that BS, I certainly do not believe the "narrative" numpty moderators of spintcom/spopen are pushing!!!!
March 6, 2016 at 11:39 pm #118287Anonymous
InactiveNow come on Cde Colborn lets be fair. I did use the word 'hell'. Allowed in the catholic church but not in this revolutionary organisation. Trist and Matt were so upset at the use of the word, well, I apologised immediately but was still suspended. Funny that because I have seen words used on this revolutionary site that made my hair curl and would certainly not be allowed in the church. I should know as a lapsed catholic. Words like 'fuck' 'cunt' and 'twat' As an ex catholic these words upset me but as a socialist and democrat and what me being tolerant I let them pass.I just wish revolutionaries could be a little more tolerant
March 6, 2016 at 11:42 pm #118288Bijou Drains
Participantmoderator1 wrote:Tim Kilgallon wrote:moderator1 wrote:Tim Kilgallon wrote:As our Branch Secretary has now been indefinitely suspended from using Spintcom (with moderators citing issues from 2013, for god's sake). Can members of the IC or Spintcom/Forum moderators please explain to me how, with our Branch Secretary unable to use these crucial tools, our branch is going to function in the same way as other party branches? Is it the case that functions available to other branches will not now be available to our branch?The suspension of Cde Vince Marraty from SPINTcom and SPopen will not affect the activities of the NERB Branch. Other members of the Branch can still post on those lists and this forum is still open to all members of NERB. In addition, on this forum the Branch has an allocated section to conduct its business.Not all Branches take advantage of the functions available on the lists or indeed on this forum. Yet they still function by using other means of communication. Its highly unlikely that Branch activity will be affected by the suspension of one of its members from the internal party lists.
Ah, really glad you agree with my viewpoint that SPINTcom and SPopen are largely an irrelevence, as much use as a one legged man in an arse kicking competition, as my old man used to say.
I did not imply no do I agree with the viewpoint that SPINTcom and SPopen are "largely an irrelevence". In fact far from it for from my perspective the more medium available to individual party members the more choice they have on using the one most appropriate to their communication needs and skills.
I suppose, to some extent I can see your point, perhaps those who have limited face to face communication skills and choices, may make use of internet based communication. Personally I prefer talking to human beings and being able to read nuance and irony from their communication styles, however if a person has a problem with interpersonal communication (and I'm not impying that anyone using these tools necessarily has these difficulties) I suppose I can see their uses. I can see how it might save them from being lonely, isolated, friendless, I guess. I find it difficult to comment on these issues, I have a social life.
March 6, 2016 at 11:47 pm #118289Anonymous
InactiveTim Kilgallon wrote:I suppose, to some extent I can see your point, perhaps those who have limited face to face communication skills and choices, may make use of internet based communication. Personally I prefer talking to human beings and being able to read nuance and irony from their communication styles, however if a person has a problem with interpersonal communication (and I'm not impying that anyone using these tools necessarily has these difficulties) I suppose I can see their uses. I can see how it might save them from being lonely, isolated, friendless, I guess. I find it difficult to comment on these issues, I have a social life.howh lad ! Cheeky Geordie git. I use the forums and I am not friendless. I have friend called ADam, played for Sunderland oooopps
March 6, 2016 at 11:54 pm #118290Bijou Drains
ParticipantComrade Marratty, Had I known you had used words like Hell, I would never have supported you. You disgust me, you foul mouthed young reprobate!
March 6, 2016 at 11:55 pm #118291Anonymous
InactiveTim Kilgallon wrote:Comrade Marratty, Had I known you had used words like Hell, I would never have supported you. You disgust me, you foul mouthed young reprobate!March 7, 2016 at 12:01 am #118292Anonymous
InactiveReprobate and foul mouthed I admit with pride but Young?? lol
March 7, 2016 at 12:05 am #118293Bijou Drains
ParticipantIf you have any further problems with swearing, I can refer you to the offices of my solicitors messers Hadaway and Shite
March 7, 2016 at 12:12 am #118294Anonymous
InactiveThis post was removed by the mod Tim Kilgallon wrote: I suppose, to some extent I can see your point, perhaps those who have limited face to face communication skills and choices, may make use of internet based communication. Personally I prefer talking to human beings and being able to read nuance and irony from their communication styles, however if a person has a problem with interpersonal communication (and I'm not impying that anyone using these tools necessarily has these difficulties) I suppose I can see their uses. I can see how it might save them from being lonely, isolated, friendless, I guess. I find it difficult to comment on these issues, I have a social life. howh lad ! Cheeky Geordie git. I use the forums and I am not friendless. I have friend called ADam, played for Sunderland oooopps
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