Review of Kliman book

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    The Marxist Humanist Initiative have republished our review of Kliman's book in the January Socialist Standard on their site here (together with one by the "Socialist Studies" group):

    Reviews of MHI pamphlet: “Can Income Redistribution Rescue Capitalism?”

    #99945
    jondwhite
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    So to try and summariseUnderconsumptionists or overproductionists consist ofMonthly Review, Magdoff and Bellamy-Foster following Baran and SweezyThe leftDisequilibrium theorists of crisis consist ofAndrew Kliman, Marxist-HumanistsSPGBSocialist Studies

    #99946
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Where are the tendency of declining rate of profitists?

    #99947
    ALB
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    I'm not sure Kliman or the MHI would describe themselves as "disequilibium theorists" (except insofar as every crisis is a reflection of a disequilibium; we ourselves have preferred "disproportionality"). They are more into the falling rate of profit. But all will be revealed when our long-discussed interview with Kliman appears in the March Socialist Standard, though there will be a taster in the February issue out on Friday on this debate in New York.

    #99948
    Anonymous
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    jondwhite wrote:
    Socialist Studies

    Who are they?

    #99949
    jondwhite
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    The ones mentioned by the OP and MHI.

    #99950
    Brian
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    ALB wrote:
    I'm not sure Kliman or the MHI would describe themselves as "disequilibium theorists" (except insofar as every crisis is a reflection of a disequilibium; we ourselves have preferred "disproportionality"). They are more into the falling rate of profit. But all will be revealed when our long-discussed interview with Kliman appears in the March Socialist Standard, though there will be a taster in the February issue out on Friday on this debate in New York.

    What happened to the interview Kliman?

    #99951
    DJP
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    It was quite long so I'm guessing it will be in next months…

    #99952
    Brian
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    DJP wrote:
    It was quite long so I'm guessing it will be in next months…

    I'm not on about the book review but the promised interview with Kliman.

    #99953
    DJP
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    That's what I'm talking about. I interviewed Andrew Kliman but the resulting article is probably about 4 pages long. I'm guessing they're waiting till there's enough room to put it in..

    #99954
    Brian
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    We get a mention in SPEW's review of his book:  http://www.socialistparty.org.uk/articles/17458

    #99955
    ALB
    Keymaster
    Brian wrote:
    We get a mention in SPEW's review of his book:  http://www.socialistparty.org.uk/articles/17458

    This was already picked up at the time:http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/forum/general-discussion/millie-and-underconsumptionismThe Kliman interview was due to appear in this month's Socialist Standard but was held over by articles on current events (anniversary of Miners Strike, Ukraine, Davos). It's due to appear now in the April issue.

    #99956
    Anonymous
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    Kliman mentions the April Socialist Standard and our interview with him on his facebook page.https://www.facebook.com/andrew.kliman.9?fref=ts

    #99957
    Anonymous
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    There are three Marxist humanists tendencies at the present time.  All of them are based on the same mistakes made by Raya Dunayeskaya. They did like CLR James who rejected the vanguard party, and was never able to break away from Leninism and Bolshevism, but, he was able to break away from Hegelianism, but, the Marxist humanists did not. I think Paul Mattick did hit the nail on the head, this is what he said:https://www.marxists.org/archive/mattick-paul/1958/dunayevskaya.htmNews and Letter created a cult around Raya Dunayeskaya and her writtings This is what Dunayeskaya wrote about the decline of the rate of profits:https://www.marxists.org/archive/dunayevskaya/works/1947/decline-profit.htm

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