Buy Nothing Day
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November 27, 2013 at 3:18 pm #82501admiceParticipantNovember 27, 2013 at 4:49 pm #98532AnonymousInactive
Growth is not really the problem, it is the relentless pursuit of profit which is built into the system. Wealth is produced only when it can be sold at a profit.It is true that capitalism invents and creates 'needs': fashions change every five minutes but people still live in extreme poverty and socialist society will initially have to increase the production of things like housing, food, clothing etc/ But when production is carried out for need and not for sale on the market, then people can take the environment seriously.We need to abolish the profit system in a single revolution: withholding 'buying power' will not take society a single step closer to sanity. But thanks for the link
November 27, 2013 at 11:23 pm #98533alanjjohnstoneKeymasterMaybe i am a philistine but this buy nothing day reminds me of those well-fed who fast in solidarity with the hungry …too many workers have too many buy nothing days for my liking …sure i understand it is a stand against consumerism…but it is tokenism…i'll buy that Ipad tomorrow…
November 28, 2013 at 1:22 am #98534AnonymousInactiveVin Maratty wrote:Growth is not really the problem, it is the relentless pursuit of profit which is built into the system. Wealth is produced only when it can be sold at a profit.It is true that capitalism invents and creates 'needs': fashions change every five minutes but people still live in extreme poverty and socialist society will initially have to increase the production of things like housing, food, clothing etc/ But when production is carried out for need and not for sale on the market, then people can take the environment seriously.We need to abolish the profit system in a single revolution: withholding 'buying power' will not take society a single step closer to sanity. But thanks for the link======================================================================================================Vin:We as socialist, we do not want to eliminate profits, and sales on December, or during Christmas, we do not want make any reformist boycott, and we do not want to comeback to the so called real spirit of Christmas, what we really want is to eliminate profits forever, and we want to eradicate all religious mythologies too
November 28, 2013 at 9:04 am #98535AnonymousInactivemcolome1 wrote:Vin:We as socialist, we do not want to eliminate profits, and sales on December, or during Christmas, we do not want make any reformist boycott, and we do not want to comeback to the so called real spirit of Christmas, what we really want is to eliminate profits forever, and we want to eradicate all religious mythologies tooI thought that is what I said?Unless I am missing something?
November 28, 2013 at 3:59 pm #98536AnonymousInactiveVin Maratty wrote:mcolome1 wrote:Vin:We as socialist, we do not want to eliminate profits, and sales on December, or during Christmas, we do not want make any reformist boycott, and we do not want to comeback to the so called real spirit of Christmas, what we really want is to eliminate profits forever, and we want to eradicate all religious mythologies tooI thought that is what I said?Unless I am missing something?
You have not missed anything. I am just confirming, or adding more to what you have said.Some groups want to make a blockade to commodities made in Israel, but the thing that our problems do not start at the point of consumption, but at the point of production
November 30, 2013 at 1:43 pm #98537rodshawParticipantmcolome1 wrote:our problems do not start at the point of consumption, but at the point of productionVery well put – says it in a nutshell.
November 30, 2013 at 4:18 pm #98538ALBKeymasterAs the title of an article in the Socialist Standard once put it, charity begins at work.
November 30, 2013 at 4:31 pm #98539AnonymousInactiveVin Maratty wrote:mcolome1 wrote:Vin:We as socialist, we do not want to eliminate profits, and sales on December, or during Christmas, we do not want make any reformist boycott, and we do not want to comeback to the so called real spirit of Christmas, what we really want is to eliminate profits forever, and we want to eradicate all religious mythologies tooI thought that is what I said?Unless I am missing something?
You have not missed anything. I am just confirming, or adding more to what you have said.Some groups want to make a blockade to commodities made in Israel, but the thing is that our problems do not start at the point of consumption, but at the point of production.
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