Government of the rich for the rich
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August 22, 2021 at 10:57 am #220905
james19
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August 22, 2021 at 5:38 pm #220926ALB
KeymasterI wonder what they propose as the solution? The bourgeois ideal of political democracy, where every citizen has an equal say in decision-making, is never going to be realised under capitalism. As long as there is a class that owns the resources whereby society survives, that class is going to have a bigger say, by virtue of their wealth-owning, than the non-ownets. Even so, we have the force of numbers on our side and, when we get our act together, we can outvote them and end their privileged position. Bourgeois democracy is necessarily limited but not so limited that we can’t use it against them.
August 22, 2021 at 6:15 pm #220927Anonymous
InactiveSince the creation of capitalism in England the capitalist government has been the government of the rich for the rich, the idea that is the government of the people for the peoples is only an illusion written in the USA capitalist constitution,
The foundation of the USA in 1776 was the foundation of a capitalist society, and the constitution is a bourgeois constitution and they established a bourgeois democracy
Voting for the capitalist class to elect one of their candidates will never resolve the problem of mankind. Another capitalist illusion is the so-called human rights, in a society divided in social class, the only class with rights and privileges is the capitalist class.
As ALB said, we can use their bourgeoise democracy against them, but it must be done by the working class themselves, no thru a capitalist leader, with the main purpose of establishing a society of common possession of the means of production and to abolish the state apparatus, and then we can have a truly democratic society for mankind.
It is totally different from the conception of the left-wingers which in essence are no different from the conception of the right-wingers, the social democrats and the Leninists
August 22, 2021 at 9:44 pm #220932james19
ParticipantALB, I don’t have the answer to that? But in layman’s terms, it says the very foundation of capitalism, government, is rotten to the core.
Here’s another one. How the rich talk about the poor..….it has had 2.2m views, in 5 days!
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMR2rd4rv/
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August 23, 2021 at 12:35 am #220934Anonymous
InactiveOur pamphlet titled: what is wrong with the use of parliament is a very good explanation
August 23, 2021 at 11:29 pm #220951james19
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I now have 700+ followers, and growing. I just use the site, when the party Twitter account is quiet. My account is private, as is my Twitter account.Unlike Twitter, my posts are seen by all and sundry…..unfortunately, I get people who like their 5 minutes of fame….who know better by trying (and failing miserably lol) to undo history. Usually have to wrap things up, reporting their posts and their account.
Much more importantly with ML supporters, is pointing out the contradiction….between Marx & Engels: the emancipation of the working class must be the work of the working class….and Lenin: workers will never understand Socialism the vanguard of intellectuals is needed to lead them….as well as Lenin’s distortion of Marx….leading to State Capitalism. YFSAugust 31, 2021 at 2:13 am #221372Anonymous
InactiveJames 19
I went thru that already, I participated in several forums,( about 70 forums with more than 5,000 posts every months each one ) and I had my own forums,( more than 2,000 members ) and most members only cared about reforms, worshipping leaders, and state capitalists lovers, hackers, socialists distorters, and fanatics left and right wingers. The main thing that I did was to propagate and make known the socialist case and establish the difference between socialism, leftism and reformism
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